In a sense, my AKB oshi pick can be seen as some kind of narcissism. What sealed the deal for me was seeing their show live at the kami tower. Nenechi is the one member that stood out to me because she brings the hype to the performance. While all the other girls are focused on their singing and lip-syncing, nenechi is out there getting the crowd going and calling for cheers. In the case of nogizaka46, I picked Hashimoto Nanami using my gut instinct.
Then I saw that we shared the same birthday. Vu brings up an interesting point about narcissism. I think Vu is the ideal idol fan. How do you define an oshimen? Name up to three of your oshimen s from up to three different idol groups.
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Between podcasts, broadcasts, events, and analytic articles, New School Kaidan aims to bring an understanding of idol culture to the masses. Wakuteka Take a Chance. There must be a lot of lawyers in Japan who don't know what they are doing, I guess. Or worse, you imply that a lot of parents wouldn't pull their child out of an idol group if they felt even a little bit that there was a problem or their child was suffering from it. You aren't giving a lot of credit to Japanese families, and that's kind of sad to me. Even if an idol contract states that a person can't enter into a sexual relationship, that's actually legal even in Western worlds.
Look at companies that prohibit co-workers from dating, or once again, soldiers who sign a contract and aren't allowed to have sex for several months while going through basic training. It's the same thing If a soldier is too busy having sex, he might not learn how to shoot a gun, and that could mean his friends could die next to him in battle because he can't defend them.
And if an idol starts having sex, she may start screwing up, or worse, if she ends up breaking up with a boyfriend, she might not be able to focus or have a chance to really do her job properly, and she hurts the group as a whole as a result. Again, it's Japanese group mentality thinking Everyone knows Japanese women rule Japan. I'm married to a Japanese woman, who by the way fully supports the idol world and sees it as an absolutely positive force in Japan, and she would be the first to tell you that women in Japan have made HUGE leaps and strides in the past twenty years, and once again, it's a media perpetuated myth that women in Japan are somehow far, far behind.
Look up who is the most successful and richest Japanese musical artist living today and who made the most money in the past ten years.
No, I'm looking at these contracts from the modern world. Fair labor practices or treating employees as human beings isn't a Western world, it's a civilized one. There is nothing about these contracts that are for the betterment of the group.
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Everyone is hardly being treated equal. Japan does many things right, but the "idol culture" or the treatment of idols isn't one of them. And you know they don't have a problem with this how? You think these girls like having to sneak around, being shamed in the media when they're seen leaving apartments or these girls enjoy crying on TV and apologizing and or shaving their head because they are guilty of dating for god's sake? Cos if if there was it would be reported by the stellar news media here. Japan's entertainment industry is slacking, oftentimes just boring in part because of these kinds of ruthless and mostly hidden practices, with corrupt old men on top of everything.
Did you just bring up Minami's head shaving scandal? I can't even talk about this anymore with you, considering that was one incident, a knee jerk reaction, and now a funny joke among all the AKB members that didn't do anything at all to Minami's career. In fact, she's now a captain of one of AKB's team, and one of the most respected and treasured idols in the idol world.
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Yep, that really hurt her. Or uh, hey, what about Sasshi? She had a scandal, screwed around, and now is the current number one ranked AKB member, getting the most votes any member in AKB's history has ever received during their annual Sousenkyo. Fair is relative, don't you think? And clearly you are invoking the Western concept of "fair" when you are talking about contracts in Japan. Idols are treated very, very fairly by their management and agencies, unless giving idols spots in TV commercials, variety shows, making them superstars and worshipped by all, and helping them go on after being an idol to become famous actresses or seiyus or solo artists is "unfair.
And yeah, management makes money of the pursuit of these dreams by the girls, but, duh, that's modern capitalism You still haven't said a single thing that is verifiable proof that idols are this oppressed working class who have it so bad. They don't, and I've provided many instances of proof of this. Not disputing that Japan still has work to do in terms of achieving gender equality, but that's true of every country in the world, some more than others.
But how this has anything to do with the idol world is where I take objection The highest paid musician in Japan is a female, and a former idol, and if things were as bad and as mysogynistic as everyone claims the idol world to be, this couldn't happen. More to the point, the idol world isn't a reflection of Japan's lack of gender progression, but a reflection of empowerment. The problem is that articles like the one we're discussing now are built on baseless facts that continue to only point out the very few missteps the idol world has had, and call that the norm.
It's not, and the problem that keeps happening is that all the people who criticize the idol world actually have ZERO experience with it, and only read and see what media say about it, all of which is, of course, the negative stuff, because negative sells in the news. Spend five hours today, watch every AKB program you can online, rent the AKB documentary The Show Must Go On, and witness the incredible works of charity these girls did for the tsunami victims of Japan and still do , deal with growing up as national idols, feel like failures and cry because they couldn't perform well live at their first Dome tour and NOT because they had a scandal, and most of all, listen to how educated and smart and incredibly perceptive and STRONG the girls are in AKB in this documentary.
If you can honestly look me in the face afterwards and say there is some kind of gender equality problem in the idol world, well I can't say what I want to say here, but it involves you doing something to nuts. I know many Japanese who have contracts as part time employees and they are not informed of their legal holiday entitlement under the labour law and or even take any holiday entitlement, as many employees are ignorant of the law and when they are aware they feel they are breaking the harmony if they point out their legal right to their employers.
Have you ever been to one of these AKB48 cafes? I mean the customers going there. First of all, they're not "naturally blessed". Many of gravures do have plastic surgery AND many of them are underage. Or wear school uniforms to please Japanese middle age men.
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No need to deny that. I'm married to a Japanese woman, who by the way fully supports the idol world and sees it as an absolutely positive force in Japan, and she would be the first to tell you that women in Japan have made HUGE leaps and strides in the past twenty years. How long have you been living here? Obviously not long enough. Turn on your TV tonight and tell me more about Japanese women empowerment. Many idols are teenagers. Contractual obligation is good for them.
No boyfriends during teen years means no early or unwanted pregnancy.
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Besides that they have already well established in their career and enviable bank account before they become adult. One Idol success is good for her collages, her company and her parents. When the iron is hot, sword smith needs to strike it very hard for making quality swords. Idols will not young forever. Harry Potter movie sequels have made all Child actors hit the jackpot before they have grown up.
Emma Watson is a Millionaire before she can vote for election. Those girls have freedom to refuse to sign the contract.
Their parents have also agreed their girls choices. I prefer teenagers are contributing the Japanese economy and their families bank account with their talents instead of becoming teen mothers and drug addicts from other western nations. Japan needs more AKB48 for teen pop culture export.
God bless the idols, fans and management teams. I've been to the AKB cafe many times, and all I see there are young teens and college age adults. The last time I was there, there was a young girl there who travelled all the way from Hokkaido to visit the cafe with her mother. She kept looking at the coaster I received for ordering my drink, the one that has a random AKB girl's face on it, and I gave it to her. Since you obviously are speaking rather contemptuously about idol groups and their music, my guess is you just don't like idol music, so that's an unwinnable argument.
To each his own on that one. Gravure girls in Japan are usually, on average, quite natural. As for wearing school uniforms to please Japanese middle age men, where are you coming up with that?
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Can you provide proof of that? Because to me, it's more practical I've lived in Japan for over 8 years, been to hundreds of idol shows, seen thousands of TV programs You must be watching Middle Eastern TV programs. The last show I just saw was a Japanese variety show that featured three girls kicking every guy's butt on the program, followed by a dorama starring a female as the lead role, and that was followed by a popular female newscaster giving a pretty sweet report about some coffee shop in Kameido. And in between all of these things were commercials featuring several ex-AKB members and current ones too.
Yep, Japanese women are really, really oppressed aren't they? Show business has always required much more sacrifice than any other line of work. The ultimate prize of fame and riches means that people will do anything to be one of the few who come out on top. Nobody is forcing them - they have to want it badly. Talking about it as though it's just another line of work is ridiculous. If people knew what some of their favorite stars were willing to do to make it in Hollywood, they would be quite shocked. Not all of them, but many of them have done some very distasteful things to get ahead.